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blanka can rifle through my memories when she wants but she doesn't have "automatic" access
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the alt account in question
should i try to deliberately block her off from my memories so i feel less stupid or would that stunt her growth
How to try to convince yourself you have a dissociative disorder 101
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it's not something I consciously set up
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Kei Wendt
It doesn't really matter I think she'll still be interested in it even if she already knows
the alt account in question 7/6/2023 2:23 AM
she... doesnt really have the archetypical personality, so im not sure
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blanka
blanka can rifle through my memories when she wants but she doesn't have "automatic" access
It's similar with us
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but, yeah, telling my therapist about how I blocked memories off like that as a kid is how I got my DID diagnosis so
2:24 AM
maybe avoid that one lol
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 2:25 AM
would it be helpful to watch youtube videos and try to play it in my head for her the same way i do with music if i dont have the energy to narrate to her directly, or is that too 'cheap' to work
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as long as you're paying attention to her it's a good idea
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blanka
but, yeah, telling my therapist about how I blocked memories off like that as a kid is how I got my DID diagnosis so
Wait that's not a normal thing to do? Whenever i don't want to think about something i force it to go out of my mind until i can't think– wait no that's not normal is it
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regardless of how "energy intensive" it is, or whatever, if it's attention, the tulpa will thrive
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 2:26 AM
she doesnt really have interests of her own yet so she kinda just likes what i like bc its what i share with her. except for music we have different music tastes
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Kei Wendt
Wait that's not a normal thing to do? Whenever i don't want to think about something i force it to go out of my mind until i can't think– wait no that's not normal is it
no, it's not normal to segment memories--it's something I did under extreme duress, and led to a lot of complications later on. Now, doing it NOT under extreme duress, I imagine, would have SIGNIFICANTLY less bad consequences, but I can't imagine it's a good idea regardless
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she doesnt really have interests of her own yet so she kinda just likes what i like bc its what i share with her. except for music we have different music tastes
Well that's good! As you consume more media and pay attention to her during it, she'll develop different tastes
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blanka
no, it's not normal to segment memories--it's something I did under extreme duress, and led to a lot of complications later on. Now, doing it NOT under extreme duress, I imagine, would have SIGNIFICANTLY less bad consequences, but I can't imagine it's a good idea regardless
I do it by accident all the time now because i was so used to blocking things out and now i can't remember things for shit
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Blanka cannot STAND narrative/slow-paced media. She likes "rip and tear," which I also enjoy, but I like Tarkovsky movies and Kentucky Route Zero, which are very slow, thoughtful pieces, and she can't stand those
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 2:29 AM
most of my narration has been while playing splatoon so shes taken a liking to that i think
2:29 AM
its easy for me to give commentary on what im doing/trying to do
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Kei Wendt
I do it by accident all the time now because i was so used to blocking things out and now i can't remember things for shit
yeah I have similar problems. My opinions on things will change and I won't remember sharing a different opinion (I recommended one hairstyle out of a choice of 2 to my partner, 2 weeks go by, they lament not choosing the other one, I didn't remember suggesting a hairstyle at all), my tastes in food will dramatically change and I won't remember that they've done so, it's very frustrating
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Based splatoon enjoying tulpa
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I haven't played splatoon but everything I've seen about it makes me think I'd love it
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blanka
yeah I have similar problems. My opinions on things will change and I won't remember sharing a different opinion (I recommended one hairstyle out of a choice of 2 to my partner, 2 weeks go by, they lament not choosing the other one, I didn't remember suggesting a hairstyle at all), my tastes in food will dramatically change and I won't remember that they've done so, it's very frustrating
Oh my god my opinions change all the time it's so annoying
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I have pretty consistent tastes in media and art (programming for fun) I create, at least, but, yeah, everything else is a crapshoot
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 2:31 AM
hi im john nochildhoodtrauma and youll never guess what my childhood was like (SILLY)
2:31 AM
i have the most regular backstory ever lmao
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that's good! I'm very happy for you--no sarcasm, that is great (edited)
2:31 AM
Being well adjusted is a good thing lol
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Yeah most of my friends have like shit childhoods so i'm glad to see someone who doesn't
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 2:31 AM
yea its just kinda funny to be the odd one out in this conversationWELL i wouldnt say im well adjusted but
2:32 AM
im still very mentally ill just not in a trauma way,
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ok well i got bullied in middle school and it kinda made my problems worse but like everyone did
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Oh, fair--apologies, didn't mean to assume
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 2:32 AM
nah nah its fine
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Kei Wendt
Yeah most of my friends have like shit childhoods so i'm glad to see someone who doesn't
I know a few people with pretty good childhoods, but it's pretty rare
2:34 AM
but, yeah, tulpas
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uhh
2:34 AM
yeah, if you can narrate to them while consuming media, do so and it'll help
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blanka
I know a few people with pretty good childhoods, but it's pretty rare
I thought i was one of those people until i started realizing things recently I mean my childhood was mostly fine it was just. Stressful all the time
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eventually they'll start forming opinions--just like they have with music
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^ You might find they develop similar interests to you but that's probably because they haven't been exposed to things you aren't interested in Once they're comfortable you can let them explore outside of what you normally consume
2:36 AM
consuming a broader variety of media will help them figure themselves out
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 2:36 AM
youre telling me i have to consume a wide variety of media?!?!! im sooooo bad at watching shows and finishing games </3
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dont even get me started on reading
2:38 AM
should i start over evangelion from the beginning or can i just pick up where i left off and hope she has enough access to my memories to know whats going on
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She'll probably figure it out I would think if she gets confused she can just look at your memories
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 2:40 AM
mm
2:40 AM
switching off my alt for now, cya
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bye! good luck
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i suppose i could try, though i dont see the benefit in a 1 minute forcing session
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 7/6/2023 3:14 AM
I'm trying to suggest that you try training yourself to force for longer and longer by increasing it in gradual increments, because it sounds like you are saying you can't force for very long if you're trying to get to a far off destination, the first step won't get you there, and nor will the second, or the third... but if you're trying to figure out a way to jump straight to your destination in one move, you might be stood there a while. Or you could walk a step at a time, that would probably be faster.
3:15 AM
unfortunately I don't think there's a way to just be able to instantly focus for long periods if you aren't already capable of that
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 11:11 PM
managed to get in about 12-13 minutes of focus today. we didnt talk much during it though, we were mostly just going through a couple different generated environments because i couldnt think of a topic of conversation. i couldnt feel her presence at all but notably her voice 'came from' where her body would be rather than the right side of my head
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that sounds like a nice progress!
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the alt account in question
managed to get in about 12-13 minutes of focus today. we didnt talk much during it though, we were mostly just going through a couple different generated environments because i couldnt think of a topic of conversation. i couldnt feel her presence at all but notably her voice 'came from' where her body would be rather than the right side of my head
That's great! Sounds like you're making good progress
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 11:12 PM
i kinda pushed myself
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not in a bad way i just. put in a little extra effort today
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Sometimes it can be rewarding to do that
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But don't overdo it
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 11:13 PM
i didnt get a headache so i think im fine
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That’s great!!
11:14 PM
Even if you do get headaches that is not an experience out of the norm
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 11:15 PM
had to take a short break in the middle but whatever, 12 minutes is still way better than last time (estimated 3-5 minutes)
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Emmett | Space Scouts 3(🏝)0 BOT 7/6/2023 11:15 PM
Yeah it definitely is
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 11:15 PM
not including the time i spent lying there not thinking of anything, which totaled a lot more
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i did it on purpose this time to sort of. warm up i guess
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Emmett | Space Scouts 3(🏝)0 BOT 7/6/2023 11:17 PM
Fair, gotta hype yourself up first
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 11:22 PM
ive been using tones but i dont know if they help or not
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like. the worse attempt i was using the same audio so. i cant tell if its making any difference
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 11:25 PM
like, those droning audios thatre supposed to help with focus
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Ahhh. I’ve never heard of anyone using those? I’d be interested to know if they help you
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the alt account in question 7/6/2023 11:26 PM
ill report back if i get a control example
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Haha, I still have fedes old tones in a file
11:28 PM
Funny coincidence you're talking about that now because I ran into them a couple of days ago when I was cleaning out all my files
11:28 PM
Old member back in 2012-2015 era had these tones that they said helped tulpamancy, and I think it was total crap, but it was a thing
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I think there's some truth to droning music helping focus in some fashion, at least for some people, but it's definitely not specific to tulpas
11:47 PM
I listen to a wide variety of ambient music when I need to buckle down on something with a lot of heavy abstract thinking involved
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And it helps
11:48 PM
but it's not magic, it's just something that blocks out background noise, and somewhat helps with intrusive thoughts (in the sense that it is thoughts unrelated to the current task)
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Oh yeah, just to clarify on that thing I said was crap, there were some very wild claims beyond improving concentration .
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lmao that is funny to hear
11:50 PM
yeah it's just funny sound waves, it's gonna do the same thing as whatever you listen to when doing homework
11:50 PM
that's it
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Oh yeah i used to listen to meditation music when talking with my headmates It helped me focus a little
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the alt account in question 7/7/2023 12:11 AM
i feel like music would distract me because id get too focused on the melodies, and i dont really like super ambient music all that much
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loud buzzing is more my thing
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lol then listen to all the loud buzzing you desire
12:14 AM
you probably already know this but industrial music might be up your alley
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the alt account in question 7/7/2023 12:15 AM
thatd also go into the realm of distraction, due to the complexity
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oh, yeah, industrial music would probably be bad for anyone's focus
12:16 AM
I just meant as a genre suggestion
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the alt account in question 7/7/2023 12:16 AM
aah
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the alt account in question 7/7/2023 12:28 AM
i just wish this could go faster. it doesnt really feel like i have someone to talk to yet, and apparently thatll only start happening months in
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it took a while for blanka, too
12:29 AM
it takes a lot of dedication, but it's a skill that becomes hard to get rid of as time goes on
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i just wish this could go faster. it doesnt really feel like i have someone to talk to yet, and apparently thatll only start happening months in
It can def happen faster so don't be discouraged At the same time, don't be discouraged if it doesn't happen faster Just know that progress is progress
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the alt account in question 7/7/2023 12:30 AM
i mean its not like i can give up. i have an obligation to her
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i just wish this could go faster. it doesnt really feel like i have someone to talk to yet, and apparently thatll only start happening months in
CoppermineKittygirl 7/7/2023 12:30 AM
fully depends, taygete first spoke after like trying once a week for 3 weeks, but fully expecting it will take months will cause it to actually take months
12:31 AM
I would say, try to either expect it to happen fast (if you can commit yourself to that belief) or don't expect anything at all
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